Denialism

Now it’s official–Gary Null, HIV Denialist and Crank

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MarkH
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Apparently, Gary is now a documentary filmmaker, and officially an HIV Denialist. What a pity. So many people like him. It’s a shame he has to go from being wrong to being wrong and dangerous.

Check out this beauty from his website (edited for space):

Documentary filmmaker (sic) and health expert Gary Null (sic-er), Ph.D.(sic trifecta!), features never before seen footage from around the world, especially in Africa, in his new film “AIDS, Inc.”. This is the first film on AIDS to bring together the most compelling arguments of dissident scientists, physicians and public health advocates.

In “AIDS, Inc.”, Dr. Null shows how greed and corruption have prevented any real progress in fighting the epidemic and its underlying causes. The film challenges the notion that AIDS or HIV is an African monkey virus that is spread sexually and can be “treated” with harmful drugs. It considers the common underlying conditions of the epidemic, such as malnutrition, unclean water, poverty, illness such as TB, malaria and dysentery, and poor lifestyle choices.

Help give a voice to over 4,000 dissident scientists, physicians and public health advocates, and redirect the war on AIDS. We offer letters which can be adapted and sent to your legislators. Please be sure to include your name and address on the letters.

Vey is meir! Gevalt, gevalt! I mean, the coffee enemas were kind of funny, the hydrogen peroxide was just plain stupid, and the chelation therapy was kind of sad. This is downright dangerous.

In “AIDS, Inc. Dr. (sic) Null shows how greed and corruption have prevented any real progress in fighting the epidemic and its underlying causes. The film challenges the notion that AIDS or HIV is an African monkey virus that is spread sexually and can be “treated” with harmful drugs.

HIV Denialism is a huge topic, which has been addressed at my old place a few times, and here quite often.

This should really be the final straw in the discrediting of Null. Any PBS station that still uses his infomercials during their pledge drives should stop. If they don’t, viewers should consider sending their money to some other worthy cause, and tell the station why.

Comments

38 responses to “Now it’s official–Gary Null, HIV Denialist and Crank”

  1. FullFrontal

    Just the appearance of his website oozes what I like to call a high wacko quotient. There’s a great [self-sic] joke in all this about the Null Hypothesis but it’s way too early…must…get…coffee.

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  2. Dan Hocson

    FullFrontal: I hope the coffee won’t be in enema form…

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  3. Bill

    This is a bit off topic, but have you ever considered having links open in a separate window rather than taking someone away from your site?

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  4. PalMD

    You are implying that I have some sort of logical, systematic method that I employ…

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  5. Chris Noble

    …the hydrogen peroxide was just plain stupid…

    It has always amused me that the hydrogen peroxide cures everything and the AIDS is oxidative stress kooks tend to flock together despite the mutually contradictory beliefs.

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  6. Bluegrass Geek

    Bill, I just middle-click to open links in another tab anytime I want to keep the main window open.

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  7. Bill

    ~Bracing for a Firefox commercial…

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  8. Dr. Duke

    Gary has been a hardcore AIDS denialist for years, this is nothing new:
    http://www.garynull.com/Documents/aids.htm

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  9. ElkMountainMan

    Help give a voice to over 4,000 dissident scientists, physicians and public health advocates

    What’s an order of magnitude among friends? Or two, for that matter.

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  10. Lee Phillips

    And if you dare to criticize him he will send his lawyers after you, threatening to sue (see my website for details).

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  11. PalMD

    He’ll send lawyers? Geez, I haven’t heard from them yet, and I’ve been, um, highly critical.

    I like your letter. Did you get sued?

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  12. PalMD

    never mind followed the link…might have to look into this further…thanks

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  13. MEC

    “Gary has been a hardcore AIDS denialist for years, this is nothing new”

    Dr. Duke, why don’t you tell that to the under-informed disinformants with a nose for the important news stories at JP’s:

    http://aidstruth.org/in-the-news.php

    But crediting Denialism Blog with “outing” Null is maybe one of those little mutual bedside gestures you guys show each other?

    I wonder who you’ll “out” next – Thabo Mbeki?

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  14. Arthur Gittleman

    Gary Null has some listing of supplements for treatment of HIV in the back of one of his books. It is possible some of them will slow the progression to AIDS. He is right about the money problem as it takes millions of dollars to get approval for a HIV drug. This leaves drugs already off patent that can not be used because there is no profit and much cost. It is a flawed system.

    Supplement and herbs also have that problem. Things such as lactoferrin inhibits entry to virus. Enough blocking of virus entry does away with HIV drug resistance. One can be a denalist in the sense of a very flawed health medical system that WHO has United States listed 37th just next to Cuba.

    One can make fun on denalist because they are a suicide club but convential medicine lacks flexibility and one can make fun of them as they also increase the HIV problem with more deaths. There are no innocents with this disease. You can even start with Ronald Regan as an example. Nobody seems to want to change things and both denalists and convential think they are right. It seems things work both ways.

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  15. PalMD

    Well, I have to admit that I don’t know the veterinary literature, but from what I can parse from your difficult grammar and reasoning, you seem to think that supplements have been shown effective in treating HIV. None have. What has been shown effective is HAART (highly active anti-retroviral therapy).

    Real science is far more interesting and useful than guesswork. Knowing what CCR5 is, knowing what integrin is, knowing what reverse transcriptase is, and knowing their significance is far more useful than guessing about herbs for which there is no evidence.

    Also, blocking viral entry does not render a virus immune from evolutionary adaptation. There is nothing particularly different, in an evolutionary sense, between blocking entry to the cell and inhibiting replication. They all exert selective pressures.

    Oh, and my colleagues don’t especially like AIDS denialists, so, while I won’t censor comments, you won’t receive a warm fuzzy welcome here.

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  16. Adam

    Denialist is a prejudiced term. We are DISSIDENTS in that we dissent from the common view of AIDS. You people are the ones in denial. You deny the fact that this virus had never been isolated or shown to harm anything. You deny the fact that the meds have never been scientifically demonstrated to prolong life. Hundreds of thousands of AMericans have been “HIV+” for over 20 years and were never tested, so they don’t even know they have “HIV.” Why aren’t they dying of AIDS? Once they are told they are “infected” the fear alone is enough to collapse the immune system. Giving people toxic medications to raise their t-cell counts makes about as much sense as burning your house down to test the smoke alarm.

    In 1984, a fraud and charlaton, Robert Gallo, announced his theory and an industry began. Ten years later he admitted his theory was wrong, “The virus doesn’t kill t-cells….” But nobody paid attention. There was too much money in what they doing, and God forbid they admit that they had been doing more harm than good.

    I’m a dissident. I am not in denial.

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  17. LanceR

    Why is it that anytime I see a response to an old post, it’s *always* some denialist rant?

    Let’s see… starts with the usual “Nuh-uh! You’re the denialist!” whine, lie, lie, unsupported assertion, rhetorical question, unsupported wild allegation, bad analogy, false quote, Big Med/Big Pharma money allegation, repeat “I’m not in denial” whine.

    Yep. It’s a denialist. Anyone wanna bet he’s a drive-by and never responds?

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  18. Ryan

    You guys amaze me. If you want PROOF. I dare you to contact Gary Null or go to google and look up his videos. He can PROVE what he says. CAN YOU???? The AMA in 2000 admitted that prescription drugs alone CAUSED the DEATH of over 100,000 Americans.

    I myself have used both Hydrogen Peroxide and Ozone IV’s as an alternative to Prednisone for IPF(Idiopathic Pulmonary Fibrosis) along with exercise, suppelments, meditation etc. and I’m still alive and well after more than 4 yrs after the official diagnosis and 7 years after the first noticible symptoms. The typical IPF patient, 75%, are dead of IPF in 3-5 yrs. I still walk 2 miles every morning and can sing better than I could 3 yrs ago.

    You, with your head in the sand, can laugh at Hydrogen Peroxide therapy showing your IGNORANCE if you want. But are you really being OBJECTIVE or are you supporting the status quo who kills more Americans EVERY YEAR than ALL the Americans that died in WWI & WWII????

    Go ahead…I challenge you. Bring all of your stats….contact Gary Null and go on his radio show on PRN and go head to head…point on point with him. You’ll lose the arguement because YOU HAVEN’T DONE YOUR HOMEWORK.
    depp=true

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  19. PalMD

    THEN WHY IS THERE STILL MONKEYS!!111!1!

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  20. Denice Walter

    Holy mackerel!Even with “disemvowellment” I can still discern:”HAVEN’T DONE YOUR HOMEWORK”,a taunt Null frequently uses on the radio.

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  21. LanceR, JSG

    To quote my favorite author; myself,

    Why is it that anytime I see a response to an old post, it’s *always* some denialist rant?

    Yep. Three months pass, and some new denialist twit crawls out of the slime.

    Holy crap! I’m a prophet!

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  22. JayS

    I’ve listened to Gary for a long time. His right wing libertarian politics make me cringe. But along the way he has helped a lot of people with serious illnesses. The many testimonials broadcast on his program don’t sound like frauds. The hosts of this website would never have listened long enough to know. They are the ideological heirs of those physicians who for decades claimed there were no negative health effects from smoking. No need to listen to the patient, no need to keep an open mind, they have all the answers already.

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  23. LanceR, JSg

    Yep. About three months, just like clockwork. This is starting to get creepy.

    I swear, I will only use my powers for good!

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  24. babyfacemagee

    Gary Null happens to be right about a lot of what he says. Those who call him a ‘denialist’ obviously have not sat and carefully watched/listened to his documentaries. He backs up everything he says with expert witnesses, clear scientific explanations etc. You know they once called doctors ‘witches’ and ‘sorcerers’ because people couldn’t understand what medicine was.

    I’ve got a Ph.d from Columbia so I’m not dummy and I predict in 100 years when they look back they will see that Mr. Null saw through the BS ‘invented’ diseases like Aids, ADHD and Depression and will call them what they are…corporate manufactured ‘labels’ for real but ‘traditional’ ailments that the pharmaceutical companies conjured up to make BILLIONS from short-sighted people like many on this board and unsuspecting ‘Joe Citizen’.

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  25. minimalist

    I’ve got a Ph.d from Columbia so I’m not dummy

    …all that needs to be said, really

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  26. Jennifer

    Wow.
    Good thing you guys know everything. I was starting to worry that there were some mysteries in the universe that had remained unsolved. Seems as though you resort to taunting and name calling, instead of proof, and forget about an open mind.
    Ever wonder why people have no confidence in doctors, pharmaceuticals, and the health “industry”? It’s because we have all experienced the “medical ARTS” in all their glory…NOT WORKING. Is it so hard to imagine why people would look for alternative answers?

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  27. Jennifer

    btw, I have never heard of Gary Null before today.

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  28. LanceR, JSG

    Naturally, whenever some crank tries to revisit settled science, other cranks try to defend him/her with the “open mind” gibberish.

    Have you heard of a little thing called “evidence”? Show us some, and we’ll be interested. Until then all your blah blah blah is the buzzing of so many gadflies.

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  29. Jennifer

    Settled science? That’s an amusing concept. No such thing.

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  30. minimalist

    Ever wonder why people have no confidence in doctors, pharmaceuticals, and the health “industry”?

    Why yes, I have wondered why nobody ever visits doctors or takes medications or consume massive amounts of medical advice!

    Oh wait, what’s not what I wonder, what I really wonder is why you are so completely crazy, Crazypants von Crazenstein of Crazyville, CR.

    Next up: HAEV YOU WONDERED WHY PEOPLE DO NOT EAT FOOD, IT IS BECUSE THEY HAET FOOD IT IZ POISON

    Following: AIR! AIR SUcKS AND EVRYONE KNOWS IT! BEEP BEEP DERP

    It’s because we have all experienced the “medical ARTS” in all their glory…NOT WORKING.

    Truly, we need to return to the good old days before doctors and medicine, when men lived to a ripe old age of 45 and women regularly died in childbirth.

    I’m sorry the drugs were not able to cure your crazy, I really am, but while there may be a consensus among the voices in your head that MEDICINE IZ BAD, that hardly applies to the six billion people who exist outside your head.

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  31. Jennifer

    At least the above post is amusing, although completely childish.

    You seem to miss the point – why not pursue all available avenues? Seriously, I’m asking. Pretend you’ve matured past the age of 12 and try to give me some sort of answer.

    Aren’t pharmaceuticals really just attempts to recreate through chemicals what can be found to occur through natural products? What if the right combination can be found, through diet or other avenues? Wouldn’t it be preferable to the hit and miss chemical adjustments we try to make with pills? Our bodies are wonders, capable of all kinds of “miracles”. Many of which scientists absolutely do not understand, true? Or do we have a grasp on every intricacy of every system in the human body?

    c’mon now. I guess if you prefer to close your eyes to the possibilities out there, you get what you deserve.

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  32. LanceR, JSG

    As I stated before, if you have any evidence, we will be interested. There are just too many idiots out there pushing the latest greatest “all natural” cure for all that ails us.

    You seem to be making a common mistake, called a false dichotomy, by distinguishing between “natural products” and “chemical adjustments”. Just because something is “chemical” does not make it not “natural”. Just because something is natural does not make it good. Cyanide is a naturally-occurring chemical, you know.

    Evidence is all. We aren’t “closing our eyes” to anything. As soon as there is evidence, we will be interested. Until then… blah, blah, blah.

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  33. Bobby

    Is Gary Null some kind of fraud? I don’t know, really. I suspect not. If some of his thoughts are cutting edge to the point of being hard to prove, that’s one thing. It isn’t enough to call him a fraud, however. I would caution those who judge who are independent thinkers on medical issues, especially when those who do the judging find nothing wrong with the many frauds and outright criminality that the pharmaceutical industry and main stream medicine are involved in right now. For them, truly, it is all about big money and special interets.

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  34. LanceR, JSG

    Riiiight… Big Pharma is out to steal your money, and Gary Freaking Null is “cutting edge”.

    Oh, dear. The crazy is out in force today.

    Name one thing Gary Null has been right about.

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  35. completely crazy, Crazypants von Crazenstein of Crazyville, CR

    “Why is it that anytime I see a response to an old post, it’s *always* some denialist rant?

    Let’s see… starts with the usual “Nuh-uh! You’re the denialist!” whine, lie, lie, unsupported assertion, rhetorical question, unsupported wild allegation, bad analogy, false quote, Big Med/Big Pharma money allegation, repeat “I’m not in denial” whine.

    Yep. It’s a denialist. Anyone wanna bet he’s a drive-by and never responds?

    THEN WHY IS THERE STILL MONKEYS!!111!1!

    Holy mackerel!Even with “disemvowellment” I can still discern:”HAVEN’T DONE YOUR HOMEWORK”,a taunt Null frequently uses on the radio.

    To quote my favorite author; myself,

    Why is it that anytime I see a response to an old post, it’s *always* some denialist rant?

    Yep. Three months pass, and some new denialist twit crawls out of the slime.

    Holy crap! I’m a prophet!

    Yep. About three months, just like clockwork. This is starting to get creepy.

    I swear, I will only use my powers for good!

    I’ve got a Ph.d from Columbia so I’m not dummy

    …all that needs to be said, really

    Naturally, whenever some crank tries to revisit settled science, other cranks try to defend him/her with the “open mind” gibberish.

    Have you heard of a little thing called “evidence”? Show us some, and we’ll be interested. Until then all your blah blah blah is the buzzing of so many gadflies.

    Why yes, I have wondered why nobody ever visits doctors or takes medications or consume massive amounts of medical advice!

    Oh wait, what’s not what I wonder, what I really wonder is why you are so completely crazy, Crazypants von Crazenstein of Crazyville, CR.

    Next up: HAEV YOU WONDERED WHY PEOPLE DO NOT EAT FOOD, IT IS BECUSE THEY HAET FOOD IT IZ POISON

    Following: AIR! AIR SUcKS AND EVRYONE KNOWS IT! BEEP BEEP DERP

    Truly, we need to return to the good old days before doctors and medicine, when men lived to a ripe old age of 45 and women regularly died in childbirth.

    I’m sorry the drugs were not able to cure your crazy, I really am, but while there may be a consensus among the voices in your head that MEDICINE IZ BAD, that hardly applies to the six billion people who exist outside your head.

    As I stated before, if you have any evidence, we will be interested. There are just too many idiots out there pushing the latest greatest “all natural” cure for all that ails us.

    You seem to be making a common mistake, called a false dichotomy, by distinguishing between “natural products” and “chemical adjustments”. Just because something is “chemical” does not make it not “natural”. Just because something is natural does not make it good. Cyanide is a naturally-occurring chemical, you know.

    Evidence is all. We aren’t “closing our eyes” to anything. As soon as there is evidence, we will be interested. Until then… blah, blah, blah.

    Riiiight… Big Pharma is out to steal your money, and Gary Freaking Null is “cutting edge”.

    Oh, dear. The crazy is out in force today.

    Name one thing Gary Null has been right about.”

    Such intelligent comments. How can one not take part in such an intellectually stimulating debate where both sides are equally heard without prejudice and name-calling?

    “completely crazy, Crazypants von Crazenstein of Crazyville, CR”

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  36. LanceR, JSG

    Wow. Just… wow. One massive textblock dump of comments by several different commenters, completely unformatted and impossible to read, followed by a WATB whining about not being heard.

    Yeah. That’ll show us you’re not crazy. Really.

    I’ve said it before, and it bears repeating. If you have evidence, we would love to see it. Science thrives on new information that completely changes the current views… but ya gotta have evidence. Otherwise it’s no more than monkeys howling and flinging poo.

    If you have a point, please enlighten us. Otherwise…

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  37. J Todd DeShong

    LanceR,JSG, I do not know who you are, but I see you frequently on science blogs, and you are hilarious. What is truly great, is that when you write seriously, you have the facts and knowledge to back up what you say, yet you still have a great sense of humor and insolence!
    LOVE IT!
    Drop by my blog sometime, dissidents4dumbees.blogspot.com
    OR better yet, drop by Clark Baker’s exlibinhollywood blog and set him straight. He is an Ex~LAPD Cop who is often on Null’s radio show. Baker also thinks he is a scientist and has “proved” that HIV meds are addictive and that the human body can go thru 4 months of debilitating withdrawl symptoms from HIV meds. Baker is quite the hoot!
    JTD

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  38. Ronald

    No Adam you are in Denial, You are a crazy son of a bitch, just like Mr Null, I will never call that piece of garbage DR NEVER, You and your friends like Christine Maggiore, that aided in the death of her own child because of her own DENIAL, and the follow up from that Quack Mohammed Al-Bayati, was PURE bullshit, He is on the board for her band of DENIALISTS, That’s why he gave that bullshit report, The REAL cause was let out of the bag, AIDS realated, sad but true, HIV is real, and so is AIDS. You and your CULT should be silenced forever, I really mean it, people like Duesberg, and Thabo Mbeki who caused the deaths of 300,000 extra people becuase of their DENIAL, you make me sick. Rot in hell.

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